I'm typing on my phone, so apologies for the formatting, typos, etc.
Anyway, no, I really know very little about what's going on between the RSOC and the RSE that other people don't. There are regular reports but they're fairly cut-and-dried. As I said, I think there are structural problems here that can and should be fixed. I don't think it's in anybody's interest to have the IAB micromanaging either the RSOC or the RSE and I think it's absolutely clear that it might be a good thing to completely restructure it with an eye towards clearer lines of responsibility and communication.
Is the current situation okay? Obviously not. Is anybody claiming it is? I don't think so. But, there's obviously a ton of misinformation out there about nearly all of it and it's engendered considerable anger that isn't necessarily productive or correctly focused.
Melinda
On Mon, Jul 29, 2019, 15:43 Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 28 Jul 2019, at 20:27, Martin Thomson wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019, at 07:21, Pete Resnick wrote:
>> It seems to me there's a pretty wide chasm between "completely
>> opaque"
>> and "micromanaging", so I'm curious about your thought that the
>> complete
>> opacity "is a very good thing". In particular, if the IAB is
>> accountable
>> (and I believe it is and should be), it's got to have at least some
>> knowledge of what's going on at a high level. That to me means that
>> the
>> IAB not only reviews the minutes of RSOC meetings like the rest of us
>> do, but also gets regular briefings from the RSOC so there can be
>> some
>> Q&A about minutes.
>
> The idea, at least as far I understand it, was that the two IAB
> members on the RSOC were entrusted with ensuring that information was
> relayed to the IAB as a whole. So, while the analogy is neat, it's not
> really a black box. Information was flowing, but it might have been
> that there was some problem with getting the right level of
> information.
What you say is more encouraging than how Melinda had framed it; not
ideal, in that perhaps the right info was not coming through, but still
better than "completely opaque". That said, I've heard intimations
offline that some folks (on the IAB and on the RSOC) thought that the
IAB was meant to purposely treat the RSOC as a black box. If your view
is the held view across the IAB and the RSOC, that's good, and perhaps
just information flow needs to be adjusted. If not, perhaps others might
say why they feel differently.
pr
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