Re: A few individual comments based on tonight's discussions

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Melinda,

Like others, I very much appreciate your (and other IAB folks) thoughts on this. It's very helpful. A larger question about the below, which Ted Tso's message alluded to:

On 24 Jul 2019, at 23:16, Melinda Shore wrote:

for those of us not on the RSOC, what transpires between
the RSOC and the RSE is completely opaque.  To me, it resembles
a black box, and it's not the case that we have some inside
information that we're hiding from you.  Most of us just don't
know much.  I think that this is a very good thing -
the RSOC members have domain expertise and a specific interest
in working with the RSE and RPC to get our documents published.
I suspect that most of us would agree that we don't want the IAB
micromanaging the RSOC or the RSE.  Personally, I do trust the RSOC
and feel that what's gone wrong here is the result of structural
problems, a terrible confluence of events, and possibly some
misjudgments (again, I have no information about this, I'm just guessing
based on pretty much the same information you all have).

However, this lack of information has led to a situation in which the
IAB is *accountable* for RFC publication but not *responsible*

It seems to me there's a pretty wide chasm between "completely opaque" and "micromanaging", so I'm curious about your thought that the complete opacity "is a very good thing". In particular, if the IAB is accountable (and I believe it is and should be), it's got to have at least some knowledge of what's going on at a high level. That to me means that the IAB not only reviews the minutes of RSOC meetings like the rest of us do, but also gets regular briefings from the RSOC so there can be some Q&A about minutes.

This isn't about micromanaging: I've served on a couple of non-profit boards, and managing staff was definitely delegated to the Executive Director and financial oversight was delegated to the board Finance Committee. And it wasn't the expectation that the ED reported to us about how a particular client is served, or that the Finance Committee reported to us about expenditures on pencils. However, we did hear from the ED about the strategy of serving particular client communities, and from the Finance Committee about the long term financial outlook. We had the opportunity to ask questions, and sometimes we'd ask about more specific things just to get an idea that the implementation of board strategies and initiatives were resulting in the desired results. That to me isn't micromanaging; the board was accountable, so we made ourselves aware of what was going on, though only in very broad brushstrokes. However, it also wasn't a completely opaque black box.

Maybe a similar level of insight into the workings of the RSOC and the RSE wouldn't have helped avert the current outcome; maybe it would have helped. Hindsight and all. But I'm not clear: Why is having a completely black box a good thing?

pr
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