Re: RFC Series Editor (RSE) Statement of Work

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On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 5:54 PM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Richard,

> The only way you find the right person without a process is to pick someone you already know.

Of course. That's exactly why the procedure for senior appointments starts with a search committee. That's how we got Heather, for example.

https://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/RSE-RFP-4August2017.pdf ?



 
It's a completely different process than an RFP for a measurable job of work.

Regards
   Brian

On 27-Jul-19 09:34, Richard Barnes wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:43 Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx <mailto:leifj@xxxxxx>> wrote:
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>     On 2019-07-26 14:30, Richard Barnes wrote:
>     > On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 00:05 Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx <mailto:leifj@xxxxxx>
>     > <mailto:leifj@mnt..se <mailto:leifj@xxxxxx>>> wrote:
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>     >
>     >     > I completely agree.  This should be treated as a search, not
>     >     writing an RFP and see who applies.
>     >
>     >     Thats absolutely right - people & community over process!
>     >
>     >
>     > This seems ironic, given how focused this thread has been on process. 
>     > The process (RFP vs search) doesn’t matter — either way we need to get
>     > the best person for the role. 
>     >
>     > To put it in contrast to Klensin’s comment at the plenary — just because
>     > someone is engaged as a contractor doesn’t make them a bag of nails.
>
>     Richard,
>
>     That is not what "people over process" means.
>
>     What I mean is this: you find the right person for the job and then you
>     figure out how to get them into the position to do the job.
>
>     Maybe I should have said "people before process".
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>             Cheers Leif
>
>
> You say this as if the right person just appears out of thin air.  There’s always a process to find the right person, whether that’s posting a job description and collecting CVs or posting an RFP and collecting RFP responses.
>
> The only way you find the right person without a process is to pick someone you already know.  It would be irresponsible of this community to limit ourselves in that way.
>
> —Richard
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