On 25-Jul-19 16:00, Theodore Y. Ts'o wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 11:16:29PM -0400, Melinda Shore wrote: >> First, for those of us not on the RSOC, what transpires between >> the RSOC and the RSE is completely opaque.... >> >> However, this lack of information has led to a situation in which the >> IAB is *accountable* for RFC publication but not *responsible*, > > Melinda, > > Thanks for pointing this out. Yes, and as I implied somewhere in one of the threads, we did miss this aspect of the "RFC Editor model" during its development. (I said it another way: that the IAB isn't actually chartered to have that accountability and responsibility, but only to approve RFC Editor appointment and policy.) > I had noticed that there was someone > from the RSOC which said on one of the interminably long e-mail > threads, hey it's not *our* fault, we just make recommendations, it's > the IAB which acts on them. (And the IAB hadn't even met yet, so > nothing was a done deal, so we're doubly not to blame for what > happened.) > > And then there was an e-mail from someone on the IAB saying, "hey we > don't micro-manage the RSOC, we give them the freedom to do their > thing" --- with the net result that it appeared that no one thought > they owned the responsibility. > > I agree with you that this does appear to be a structural problem, and > hopefully it shouldn't be too hard to address it now that it's been > exposed. If we want the 50-year-old RFC Series to continue as an institution, we do need to address this, but I'm not so sure it's as easy as you suggest. I don't want to say more before I've caught up on the discussion, since I had to leave the plenary early for a pre-arranged meeting. Brian