Hi Adrian, The IESG considers unofficial side meetings registered on the wiki to be IETF activities, and as such the note well and the policies it references apply to these meetings. I have updated the wiki [1] to make this clear. Note that all IETF meeting attendees also accept the note well when they register for the IETF meeting. The note well itself explains that "exceptions may apply” [2]. Other kinds of meetings held under the IETF Meeting Rooms Policy [3] may make exceptions on a case-by-case basis. Updating the meeting rooms policy and sharing it for community comment is on the to-do list of the IETF LLC, and clarifying this point seems like it could be one useful update. Cheers, Alissa Cooper for the IESG [1] https://trac.ietf.org/trac/ietf/meeting/wiki/105sidemeetings [2] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ [3] https://www.ietf.org/how/meetings/meeting-rooms-policy/ > On Jul 20, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > Normally [1] when we have a "bar BoF" (also known as a "side meeting") we do > not apply the terms of the "Note Well" [2]. We have usually considered bar > BoFs to be outside the IETF because the IETF has no control over who meets > and drinks. > > However, this time around, the side meetings are somewhat more formal with > room bookings and projectors and advertisements and so on. > > So, does the Note Well apply to these side meetings? > > Apologies if I missed an email on this: I sometimes don't focus as much as I > should. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > [1] For some practical definition of "normal" > [2] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ > -- > Read some fairy stories for adults of all ages > .. Tales from the Wood > .. More Tales from the Wood > .. Tales from Beyond the Wood > .. Tales from the Castle > Get them on line https://www.feedaread.com/profiles/8604/ > Or buy a signed copy from me by post > *** Stop me in the corridor at IETF-105 to get a copy *** > > >