On 2019-07-15 23:27, Jari Arkko wrote: > Leif, > >> - I think it might be a good idea to figure out why it is so >> diffucult for us to attract communities to come and publish >> on /our/ terms. > > I think you said to yourself, people sometimes like to have their own terms :-) Nothing wrong with that. Sure, unless our terms are more exacting than they have to be. > >> Melissa has suggested IPR as one cause. sorry for misspelling your name Melinda > > There are many needs, of course, and a million different desirable standards copyright and patent IPR regimes. In my experience, the IETF copyright and IPR model is relatively attractive. Watching organisations that interact with many standards and open source efforts, the attrition rate for some of the other models can be pretty high. So I personally wouldn’t worry too much about this aspect. But yes, for someone who has specific needs the match may not be there. Yet one needs some agreement on the operating principles, e.g., that documents are openly accessible, can be revised by anyone, etc. I think the IETF rules are a reasonable compromise and quite flexible. I totally get that and I personally agree. However for smaller companies whose primary IPR assets is tied up in that one strategic standards process, its probably not surprising that other IPR models seem very attractive. In particular variations on the theme "everyone keep their IPR, promise not to litigate and publish after SDO agrees on what the standard is" has been pretty common. Cheers Leif
