I totally agree with Lou. I don't think that affiliations of anyone other than voting members are required to be considered.. I will also add that in my opinion the chair is there to facilitate the process and isn't a key decision maker when it comes to the appointments themselves. Certainly, each nomcom decides processes they will use themselves, but if they decide a process where the chair can influence the outcome, I personally think something is wrong from the outset.
Regards,
Mary
(Nomcom 2009-2010 chair)
On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 5:43 AM Lou Berger <lberger@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Victor,
FWIW I think you are setting precedent without necessity - only voting members choose, non-voting members advise.
Lou
On July 8, 2019 2:35:15 AM Victor Kuarsingh <victor@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Loa, All,Upon a discussion with Scott who is serving as the previous chair (whom fills in as chair should I not be able to continue), I decided to include both Scott (Ericsson), and Victor (Oracle) to be counted towards the affiliation target. The Chair is a very active member of the Nomcom committee and therefore we felt that we would apply the rule to ourselves as well.Our goal is to ensure there is a fair process with as little bias as possible. With reference to Appendix B sec. 5 of RFC 7437, we decided to include ourselves as part of the “Nominating committee” members for the purposes of selection and max affiliation members.Regards,Victor KuarsinghNomcom. Chair 2019 - 2020On Sun, Jul 7, 2019, 6:16 PM Loa Andersson <loa@xxxxx> wrote:Russ,
I thought so too,
ARM Limited, Altmode Networks, Oracle and Futurewei are not
Ericsson.
/Loa
On 2019-07-07 17:58, Russ Housley wrote:
> Victor:
>
> Please check your results. I ran the random seeds, and I get the same set of numbers, but I do not think that Borje Ohlman should have been dropped. Borje is the second person associated with Ericsson, not the third.
>
> Russ
>
>
>> On Jul 7, 2019, at 11:09 AM, NomCom Chair 2019 <nomcom-chair-2019@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I am announcing the results of the randomness selection process for the 2019-2020 NomCom. The results are as shown below. Three people were disqualified due to company weighting per RFC 7437 which we are limiting to two (2) members from any one primary affiliation.
>>
>> # First/Last Name - Affiliation - Selection Order
>> —————————————————————————————
>> 57. Hannes Tschofenig - ARM Limited - 1
>> 163. Wassim Haddad - Ericsson - 2
>> 74. Jim Fenton - Altmode Networks - 3
>> 45. Eric McMurry - Oracle - 4
>> 42. Donald Eastlake - Futurewei Technologies - 5
>> 85. Lars Eggert - Netapp - 7
>> 12. Bernie Hoeneisen - Ucom.ch / pEp - 8
>> 92. Linda Dunbar - Futurewei Technologies - 10
>> 75. Job Snijders - NTT - 11
>> 97. Marie-Jose Montpetit - Triangle Video - 12
>>
>> Disqualified selections are noted below:
>>
>> 17. Borje Ohlman - Ericsson (Maximum Number of 2 for Ericsson reached) - 6th in randomness order
>> 29. Daniel Migault - Ericsson (Maximum Number of 2 for Ericsson reached) - 9th in randomness order
>> 14. Bing (Remy) Liu - Huawei (Maximum Number of 2 for Futurewei or Huawei reached) - 12th in randomness order
>>
>> With this announcement, a one week challenge period starts wherein the community may challenge the results to the NomCom Chair (in writing, email is fine). See RFC 7437, Section 4.17 for details.
>>
>> I will be contacting the selected volunteers to ensure they remain willing and available to serve.
>>
>> Random selection data used:
>>
>> EuroMillions Lottery Results
>> https://www.euro-millions.com/results
>> Friday, July 5, 2019
>> Results: https://www.euro-millions.com/results/05-07-2019
>>
>> Results: 2 9 20 34 42 6 9
>>
>> MLB Major League Basement (“Score, Hits and Errors"), Result of the Orioles vs. Blue Jays game scheduled for Friday, July 5, 2019 at 7:07 PM
>> https://www....mlb.com/gameday/orioles-vs-blue-jays/2019/07/05/566909#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=566909
>>
>> Results: 4 6 0 1 4 1
>>
>> Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation Lotto 649
>> Saturday, July 6, 2019 Results:
>> https://lottery.olg.ca/en-ca/winning-numbers/lotto-649/winning-numbers?startDate=2019-07-05&endDate=2019-07-07
>> (7 Numbers including the bonus ball: 6 numbers between 1 and 49 and one bonus ball between 1 and 49)
>>
>> Results: 10 28 38 39 40 43 45
>>
>> Powerball Lottery Results
>> http://www.powerball.com/games/powerball
>> Saturday, July 6, 2019
>>
>> Results: 04 08 23 46 65 01
>>
>> Victor Kuarsingh
>> victor at jvknet dot com
>> nomcom-chair-2019 at ietf dot org
>>
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