Re: [IAB] IAB Job Description - Call for Comments

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On 04-Jul-19 12:54, Ted Hardie wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 5:16 PM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
> 
>     On 04-Jul-19 04:42, Ted Hardie wrote:
>     > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 10:28 PM Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     <snipped>
>     >
>     >  
>     >
>     >     > The IAB is responsible for the RFC Editor function, including selection and oversight of the RFC Series Editor through the RFC Series Oversight Committee (RSOC).
>     >
>     >     That's not what the IAB Charter says. See clause (d) at https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2850#page-3 for the definition of the IAB's role. So an accurate statement would be more like:
>     >
>     >
>     > The related statement in RFC 6635 is slightly different, as it says:
>     >
>     >    The IAB is responsible for the oversight of the RFC Series and acts
>     >    as a body for final conflict resolution, including the process
>     >    described in Section 4.3 <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6635#section-4.3>.
> 
> 
>     True, but that isn't a BCP with IETF consensus, is it?
> 
> No it isn't.  My understanding of the reasoning behind that choice, though, was that it matched the new model better to have the model documents published in the IAB stream.  Leslie and Olaf may have better clue than me, though.
>  
> 
>     >  before going on to describe the delegation of authority to the RSOC.  Almost everything is, in fact,  delegated.  That makes me suspect that a better reflection of the current system would be:
>     >
>     > "The IAB is responsible for the selection of the RFC Series Oversight Committee (RSOC) and for acting on any recommendations of the RSOC which effect the RSE as an individual."
> 
>     How can that be true when the contract is held by IETF LLC?
> 
> The recommendations for appointment of the RSE by the RSOC are approved by the IAB pending contract negotiations.  Perhaps "for approving any recommendations" would be better language than "action on"?

Yes, I believe that is better, thanks.

   Brian 
> regards,
> 
> Ted
>  
> 
>        Brian
> 
>     >
>     > Just my two cents,
>     >
>     > Ted
>     >
>     >     The IAB is responsible for approving the appointment of an organization to act as RFC Editor and the general policy followed by the RFC Editor, through the RFC Series Oversight Committee (RSOC).
>     >
>     >     (That also fits better with the fact the relevant contracts are held by IETF LLC; there's no way to reconcile that with "the IAB is responsible for the RFC Editor function".)
>     >
>     >         Brian
>     >
> 





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