Re: Effective discourse in the IETF

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On 7/3/19 3:11 PM, Paul Wouters wrote:

On Jul 3, 2019, at 15:01, Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

   It is not necessary to be brutally honest at all times to get good technical work done.  But it is necessary to be able to be brutally honest, for that kind of input to be tolerated and respected
Brutality does not garnish respect.

"Brutally honest" is an idiom, not an accurate description.   The point is, there are times when you need to err on the side of honesty, rather than out of any perceptions of politeness.

And sure, some people have more skill than others at getting their point across without pressing others' buttons.   And we could probably all become more skilled at that.   But do we want to exclude all input from those less-skilled individuals until they gain more skill?   (To me it seems like that would be like saying "Sorry, we're going to publish this RFC with this identified technical flaw because we think you were impolite in your attempts to raise awareness of the issue.")

Keith





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