Yes, and I have been admonished off-list. I apologize for the
implication that unnamed others are participating in this conversation
in bad faith.
/a
On 6/26/19 3:50 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
Matthew, with respect, what Adam said was also quite disrespectful, just more subtly so. Not that two wrongs make a right—they do not. But consistency is a virtue.
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On Jun 26, 2019, at 4:45 PM, Matthew A. Miller <linuxwolf+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
This language is not professional or respectful, and we urge careful
consideration in future replies. Disputing one's view of events is of
course welcome; insinuation that others are speaking or acting in bad
faith is not.
-
IETF Sergeant at Arms
On 19/06/26 13:41, Michael StJohns wrote:
Wow - just wow.
On 6/26/2019 3:29 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
By way of disclosure, I'll be the first to point out that I'm on both
the IESG and the RSOC, and so I'm going to have a certain perspective
on the events underway. I hope that my statements below stand on their
own, independently of whatever interests my position may imply.
On 6/26/19 10:20 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
I am claiming that some think that this situation has just occured, and it
resulted in the RSE deciding to do something else rather than attempt to
continue fighting against some bad thing happening.
(I am not saying that I even understand what the "thing" was, or agree that
it was "bad")
You or anyone else for that matter. What happened is:
1. We, the community, liked Heather personally
2. Heather is leaving
3. So we're sad [1]
What a piece of self serving revisionism. What appears to have really
happened from the emails that have been published is:
1) We the RSOC like Heather personally (or so the RSOC has said repeatedly).
2) Because of this the RSOC decided we needed to recompete the RSE and
used the excuse of needing to tweek the RFP process - said process that
could have been delayed for almost 3 years but was considered by the
RSOC to be of critical importantance (why?) that the RSE just did it now.
3) Because of the short time to do so the RSOC grudgingly offered to
extend the current RSE contract through the end of 2021 and notified her
of the intent to terminate the contract at that point.
4) At some point near the time Heather was notified, the RSOC sent a
note to the IAB indicating (2) and (3), which Heather would have read.
5) Heather, analyzing both what has been said and not said declined the
extension for the reasons she stated.
6) Some of us are sad, and I'm not sure of who that includes.
1.
You're kind of pointing sideways at some conspiracy theories that
people have come up with to explain why #2 happened, but they're not
really supported by facts in evidence. This is natural: because of #3,
it's understandable to try to find someone to blame. But this is why
you're having a hard time understanding what the "thing" is: it's
whatever boogeyman the conspiracy theorists have chosen to invent for
that moment. And so it's definitely "bad", but it isn't actually "real".
I'm not saying that all of the critical posts on this topic are wrong.
There are some valid points being made about the overall RFC Editor
model, its history, and where its future may lie; and some of these
are necessarily being couched as criticism.
But there is also some poorly motivated rage being expressed based on
wholly fabricated assumptions, much of which seems to be impervious to
facts and unable to cite sources. Again, this is an understandable and
natural reaction to being sad, although it is far from helpful. Even
worse, it may harm our ability to find a suitable replacement for
Heather: who wants to walk into a community full of rage?
And so I strongly encourage you -- and others -- to be wary of
arguments based on supposition. Share what you know and think, but
please don't amplify untested theories.
/a
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[1] I'm using "sad" here as a proxy for a complicated maelstrom of
negative emotions that people seem to be undergoing at the moment.
There's probably an entire doctoral thesis's worth of explanation that
could be used to describe these emotions more accurately, but I don't
have the tools to do so.
