Re: RFC Editor model

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This language is not professional or respectful, and we urge careful
consideration in future replies.  Disputing one's view of events is of
course welcome; insinuation that others are speaking or acting in bad
faith is not.


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IETF Sergeant at Arms

On 19/06/26 13:41, Michael StJohns wrote:
> Wow - just wow.
> 
> On 6/26/2019 3:29 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
>> By way of disclosure, I'll be the first to point out that I'm on both
>> the IESG and the RSOC, and so I'm going to have a certain perspective
>> on the events underway. I hope that my statements below stand on their
>> own, independently of whatever interests my position may imply.
>>
>> On 6/26/19 10:20 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>> I am claiming that some think that this situation has just occured, and it
>>> resulted in the RSE deciding to do something else rather than attempt to
>>> continue fighting against some bad thing happening.
>>> (I am not saying that I even understand what the "thing" was, or agree that
>>> it was "bad")
>>
>>
>> You or anyone else for that matter. What happened is:
>>
>>  1. We, the community, liked Heather personally
>>  2. Heather is leaving
>>  3. So we're sad [1]
>>
> What a piece of self serving revisionism.    What appears to have really
> happened from the emails that have been published is:
> 
> 
> 1) We the RSOC like Heather personally (or so the RSOC has said repeatedly).
> 
> 2) Because of this the RSOC decided we needed to recompete the RSE and
> used the excuse of needing to tweek the RFP process - said process that
> could have been delayed for almost 3 years but was considered by the
> RSOC to be of critical importantance (why?) that the RSE just did it now.
> 
> 3) Because of the short time to do so the RSOC grudgingly offered to
> extend the current RSE contract through the end of 2021 and notified her
> of the intent to terminate the contract at that point.
> 
> 4) At some point near the time Heather was notified, the RSOC sent a
> note to the IAB indicating (2) and (3), which Heather would have read.
> 
> 5) Heather, analyzing both what has been said and not said declined the
> extension for the reasons she stated.
> 
> 6) Some of us are sad, and I'm not sure of who that includes.
> 
> 
> 
>> 1.
>>
>>
>> You're kind of pointing sideways at some conspiracy theories that
>> people have come up with to explain why #2 happened, but they're not
>> really supported by facts in evidence. This is natural: because of #3,
>> it's understandable to try to find someone to blame. But this is why
>> you're having a hard time understanding what the "thing" is: it's
>> whatever boogeyman the conspiracy theorists have chosen to invent for
>> that moment. And so it's definitely "bad", but it isn't actually "real".
>>
>> I'm not saying that all of the critical posts on this topic are wrong.
>> There are some valid points being made about the overall RFC Editor
>> model, its history, and where its future may lie; and some of these
>> are necessarily being couched as criticism.
>>
>> But there is also some poorly motivated rage being expressed based on
>> wholly fabricated assumptions, much of which seems to be impervious to
>> facts and unable to cite sources. Again, this is an understandable and
>> natural reaction to being sad, although it is far from helpful. Even
>> worse, it may harm our ability to find a suitable replacement for
>> Heather: who wants to walk into a community full of rage?
>>
>> And so I strongly encourage you -- and others -- to be wary of
>> arguments based on supposition. Share what you know and think, but
>> please don't amplify untested theories.
>>
>> /a
>>
>> ____
>> [1] I'm using "sad" here as a proxy for a complicated maelstrom of
>> negative emotions that people seem to be undergoing at the moment.
>> There's probably an entire doctoral thesis's worth of explanation that
>> could be used to describe these emotions more accurately, but I don't
>> have the tools to do so.
>>
> 




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