Re: draft-moonesamy-recall-rev-01: Number of Signatures Required

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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 05:45:32PM -0400, John C Klensin wrote:
> --On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 08:25 +1200 Brian E Carpenter
> <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > 10 or 20?
> > 
> > Please remember that the threshold for the normal appeals
> > process, which can involve up the following in extra work:
> >     WG Chairs, AD, IESG, IAB and ISOC Board
> > is 1 person, who doesn't even have to be an active participant.
> > 
> > Has the IETF been drowned by frivolous appeals? No.
> 
> Also remember that, between the publication of RFC 2027 in
> October 1996 and RFC 3777 in June 2004, the number of
> petitioners required to initiate a recall was one, with no
> restriction on the prior participation, affiliations, etc., of
> that person.  The number of frivolous (or, for that matter,
> non-frivolous) appeal efforts that got as far as forming a
> recall committee during that period was, um, zero.

Presumably there could be a light-weight mechanism for making a quick
decision as to whether a recall petition is frivolous.  E.g., the IAB
and IESG (minus the subject of the recall petition) could determine if
the petition is frivolous, with adverse decisions appealable to the IETF
Chair.  Something like that.

Nico
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