On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 08:38:44AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > It would certainly be ironic if a proposal to alleviate some > of the disadvantages of remote participation couldn't be be > discussed by remote participants in multiple time zones. > > With all due respect, etc. etc., I've always understood that > discussion by email was intended to alleviate exactly that > problem, and this list *is* the IETF plenary. So exactly who > has been disenfranchised from this discussion who would be > enfranchised by a physical or virtual BOF? Taking this question at face value: technically, "no one", since membership in the list is open modulo posting actions or SAA actions (I think there may be one or two of the latter still active, hence scare quotes). But in practice, I hear from the grapevine that many people are unwilling to subscribe to or participate in discussions solely on this list, because the volume of traffic is large and the perceived signal/noise ratio insufficient to merit the time commitment. Having a dedicated discussion forum other than this one is both in keeping with the list charter and would provide a lower barrier to participation from those who have stayed away from the general discussion list but do care about remote participation. It is fair to debate the cardinality of that set, if you have a different perception than me, of course. -Ben