Hi Alex, I created and logged in using a new personal account (not from the Cisco corporate network). I also needed to add a physical address, but after that I was able to download the pdf version of the standard to my phone at no charge. So, I believe that this document (IEEE 802.11-2016) is currently freely available. However, I'm not sure whether this particular version will still be freely available if a new version of the 802.11 standard is published. I might be wrong, but I think that just that latest version that is at least 6 months old that is available at no charge, after that you need to pay (or get it via a personal/corporate IEEE membership) ... certainly that is what the website seems to indicate if I try and access an older revision of the IEEE 802.11 standard. HTH, Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu > Sent: 08 April 2019 16:31 > To: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@xxxxxxxxx>; Carsten Bormann > <cabo@xxxxxxx> > Cc: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@xxxxxxxxx>; int-dir@xxxxxxxx; draft- > ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb.all@xxxxxxxx; its@xxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - > free or not free access to 802.11-2016 document > > a knowledgeable person tells in private we could share the document in a > peer-to-peer manner. I thank. > > but there is still no free access to the IEEE 802.11-2016 document, so I keep > "Description freely available" and I do not put "document freely available". > > I will check back tomorrow. > > Alex > > Le 08/04/2019 à 16:35, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit : > > Carsten, > > > > Le 08/04/2019 à 16:17, Carsten Bormann a écrit : > >> On Apr 8, 2019, at 15:02, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) > >> <pthubert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> > >>> For all I know, IEEE documents are generally available for free 6 > >>> months after the publication. > >> > >> (This is true specifically for IEEE 802 documents through the get802 > >> program, and a few other places they have seen the light. Generally, > >> IEEE’s business model is still largely based on selling documents.) > > > > I can agree with the principle. > > > > In this particular case, is it too much that I ask you to please > > download this 802.11-2016 document > > https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995 > > > > If you already have an account via an organisation, please remove it > > from the Options of your browser (so it does not pre-fill the form > > with some password) and try to follow the IEEE procedure to maybe make > > a new one. > > > > If you access IEEE via an organisation's IP address (so your > > organisation's name is seen at the top of the page) then try to access > > it from home, or from smartphone. > > > > If you think the IEEE GET Program gives some additional access ("With > > support from the IEEE-SA, industry sponsors, and government, a number > > of IEEE standards are available for download at no cost. This > > program, entitled IEEE GET ProgramTM, grants public access to view > > and/or download these current individual standards.) please go to its > > URL and see that they list 802.11 but then it points to the same URL > > as at the beginning of this email, so cant download. > > > > If it is too much to ask, sorry. > > > > (I already asked a co-author to do this - no answer; and another > > knowledgeable person just now doubts in private the availability > > statements). > > > > Alex > >
