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On 3/25/19 5:57 PM, Stan Kalisch wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, at 5:23 PM,
Keith Moore wrote:
On 3/25/19 5:13 PM, Stan Kalisch wrote:
On Mon, Mar 25, 2019, at 5:00
PM, Keith Moore wrote:
Different people have
different ideas about what "unpleasant" means.
They do, but what is
significant is the common, shared subset of those ideas
within a community. That subset alone can significantly
determine who is part of a community, and who is not.
Agreed. However, some people
are accustomed to environments in which criticism of one's
technical ideas is interpreted as personal criticism by the
one expressing such ideas and/or by others.
Indeed. But what periodically
mystifies me about the IETF (not that this is necessarily unique
to this organization) is that you would think it could exercise
some kind of collective aptitude to focus on those rigorous,
sometimes necessarily blunt technical arguments to the general
exclusion of the more grandiose, melodramatic indictments a
number of people like to make of the thought processes and
consciousness of other participants.
We are collectively involved in the building the most elaborate
distributed system in history, and are constantly fighting
difficult problems of scale. People who have been at this awhile
can hardly be blamed either for a bit of frustration, or for
trying to generalize about the sources of such frustration.
However it might be worthwhile to seek more effective ways of
both communicating these observations, and incorporating such
feedback into our design and architecture.
Keith
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