From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> > This is certainly an exciting picture of the future that you are painting at layer 2 and layer 3, but I notice that you didn’t respond to Ole’s point, which I think is a great example of the problem. Like it or not, the participants in the IETF have expertise that is relevant to things that you call “political,” and to suggest that we should not factor that into our decisions is unrealistic. We are going to factor these considerations into our decisions whether we admit it or not. [JL] I agree, Ted. New IETF standards are not introduced in a vacuum. Rather, IETF standards have real-world impacts on technologies, markets, and societies (and of course the people in those societies).
