> On Dec 5, 2018, at 4:21 AM, Gert Doering <gert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > >> On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 04:13:47AM -0800, Joe Touch wrote: >> Then THAT is the security issue. Not the packets that cause a broken implementation to have problems. > > Can we declare folks at IETF that have no idea about operational realities > to be a security issue? As long as we can do the same for operators that blame protocols for vendor issues. Joe