Take that to the standards wg. Don’t stick your head in the sand and try to do an end run in ops. And don’t call any of this a security issue that it isn’t. Joe > On Nov 27, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> On 27/11/2018 01:47, Joe Touch wrote: >> If you can’t handle options, then you’re just lying about the tbps. > > When the required application performance exceeds the ability of the hardware > designers to deliver it economically (or may be at any price) something has to give. > At that point either the protocol gets modified, or it goes end of life. > > - Stewart > >> Joe >> >>> On Nov 26, 2018, at 5:18 PM, Nick Hilliard <nick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> Joe Touch wrote on 26/11/2018 21:59: >>>> Rate limiting is quite different from 100% discards. When abuse >>>> happens, it's clearly safe to react. >>> data plane speeds are measured in terabits/sec. Control plane capacity for dealing with punted packets is measured in kilobits. As end user and data plane speeds increase, rate-limiting for problematic packets will tend towards towards 100% loss. >>> >>> It doesn't matter if your packet stream is subject to 20% loss, or 100%, or 100% for 20% of the time - beyond a certain point, the end user experience will languish in an indistinguishable morass of unusability. >>> >>> Nick >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tsv-art mailing list >>> Tsv-art@xxxxxxxx >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsv-art >
