Re: remote participation

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Is this a paper you can share with us without requiring us to sign into the IEEE web site?

Not the copyrighted version. You can find a pre-print here:


Cheers,

Simon



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Il giorno 08 nov 2018, alle ore 09:27, Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> ha scritto:

Is this a paper you can share with us without requiring us to sign into the IEEE web site?

On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:59 AM Simon Pietro Romano <spromano@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello again John and Sandra,

a few additional comments in-line.


About

A feasible approach to removing such a latency is indeed
represented by the use of the Meetecho virtual queue. In this
way, remote participants can in fact directly inject (in a
chair-moderated fashion) their audio (and video, if desired)
into the conference room, with no need for any "jabber
relay".

In what way does the virtual queue counteract the time it
takes for the "any questions" to reach my platform before
the "no?  ok, on to next topic" occurs in the meeting room?

Simon may have a different answer, but what I'm noticed is that
it takes me a while to compose a question that will be coherent
and clear enough when read at the microphone by someone else and
possibly out of sequence with the conversation.   By contrast, I
can click on the "put me in queue" icon in real time and finish
composing my question the same way I do when I get in the mic
line, i.e., while waiting to get to the front of the queue.  As
with standing in the physical line, if I change my mind about
saying something before I get to the front of the queue, it is
easy for me to get out of line sit down (physically or
virtually).


I haver no better answer, indeed. You did read my mind.

'T'would indeed be great to inject my audio and maybe
video into the room.  Save me the typing which always takes me
much too long.

And that is exactly the point above.   The Jabber input
mechanism is much more suited for quick comments than for
detailed ones and far too ponderous for anything resembling a
bac-and-forth discussion (which I've had using Meetecho
facilities)

Agreed.

Whether that's
one somebody with an assigned role or a community effort.

(I await education of a current tool feature that puts the
audio from the virtual queue directly into the room at some
deliberate point without human direction.  But you did say "in
a chair-moderated fashion".)

In-room microphone queues are also chair-moderated.   I'd be
really happy if we could get to parity.

I could not agree more on that, since “moderation” has been our kink for a while.
See https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7081100 to get a sense of what I’m saying (and sorry about the self-citation!).

Thanks again for your precious feedbacks,

Simon


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