Hi, I asked this question and got no answer. Is there a reason why you need to pay when registering since the fee is based on when you pay not when you register in the current policy. It complicate the process when the registration which requires your personal information and the payment done by the company are done by two separate persons Roni Even -----Original Message----- From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:38 AM To: Brian E Carpenter; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Planned changes to registration payments & deadlines Hi, No, a registration number will not be available under the plan, because the prospective registrant won't actually be registered before payment. Payment will be a necessary condition for registration. Without paying, one won't be registered. I hope that's clearer. Best regards, A -- Please excuse my clumbsy thums ---------- On April 24, 2018 19:30:52 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: On 25/04/2018 04:56, Andrew Sullivan wrote: .... There is one assumption in your question, however, that is worth emphasising: you can't get a social ticket until you're registered, and under our plan "registration" means "paid registration". This also applies to companion registrations to the meeting, &c &c. There will simply be no such status as "registered but not paid", even if registration may take many weeks so that payment can be processed separately from sign-up. Digging a bit deeper into that, there are other cases where you need a registration number well before the meeting - registering for certain types of side-meeting, for example. So will the registration *number* be available while payment is pending? (An implementation detail, I know, but probably better debugged in advance.) Brian