I'm not sure if you have been in the plenary, but I guess you missed my point.
I go for work as well *only*, never do tourism in any IETF, try to go just for the meeting days, not extra days, and pay from my personal pocket.
What for some is easy to reach, is not so easy for others, and that's the reason we balance the regions, and as we get more contributors from other regions, and has been said in the plenary today, we need to go to places where we can increase the chances for new local contributors and share the cost in an inclusive way.
We also need to share how many hours some of us fly in some trips, so the average is inclusive as well.
Regards,
Jordi
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De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018, 20:38
Para: <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: meeting in other places
Some of us go to IETF for work, not tourism.
We should have it in a place where:
1. We can get the work done
2. We can all get to easily
Even if it is boring.
I hate to disappoint you but there is no such place in Africa at
present. This is an extra 7h long haul for most of us. At least. More if
it is South Africa.
That was the case with Buenos Aires too by the way. Not everyone has
2000k airline ticket budget for a round-the world trip and spare 2 days
just for travel.
So the only remaining reason is tourism. That will be a No then.
A.
On 21/03/18 20:29, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> A few years ago, I suggested in the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go to Africa and Latin America.
>
> I was almost killed because that.
>
> Then, we went to Buenos Aires and nobody had any issue compared with the regular issues that happen in other locations (cookies, pick-pockets, and so .... choose your preferred one).
>
> I didn't get yet a meeting in Africa. Is time for it!
>
> Of course, if venues can accommodate us. I know very well how difficult is to find a venue for our group. I'm not trying to break those rules, but the region rotation need to start changing and allowing that.
>
> Considering the actual conversation in the plenary, I think is time to seriously consider *urgently* to return to Latin America and look for locations in Africa, more locations in Asia Pacific, and so on.
>
> Also, I think it is clear that if we really want to share expenses, thinks said today need to be considered:
> 1) Ideally, the registration fee should be reduced or made almost free. We need to find better funding, or even study with ISOC if there are able to increase our funding towards that.
> 2) Remote participants should share part of the cost.
> 3) Local participants don't have (same) traveling expenses, so they should also cover some extra cost.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
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