I wanted to register my opinion on the recommendation having reviewed the document and discussion. I believe it is a sound recommendation and I support it. I believe that it will make IETF meetings a more inclusive environment at a very low cost. I think that the stakes and cost of implementing are low enough that the IESG should explicitly subject it to rough consensus even though I recognize they have no obligation to do so. IMHO community-building recommendations are most effective when the community makes their support clear. Is I say, I support the recommendation regardless of the IESG's intention in generating it. -- Ted Faber <theodore.v.faber@xxxxxxxx> Senior Engineering Specialist Computer Systems Research Department The Aerospace Corporation 310-336-7373 ________________________________________ From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Eric Rescorla <ekr@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 09:58 To: IETF discussion list Subject: Re: Proposed Photography Policy Replying to myself.... Dear All, Thanks very much for your comments. The IESG will be reviewing them closely and reaching out to a few of you to follow up. We will come back to the community once we've done that and had a chance to discuss the way forward. -Ekr On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:01 PM, Eric Rescorla <ekr@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ekr@xxxxxxxx>> wrote: Hi folks, The IESG has heard some concerns from participants that they would like not to be photographed. In response to those concerns, we have developed the attached policy which we intend to put in place going forward. Please send any comments by 3/8/2018. -Ekr ----- The intent behind this policy is to balance people's legitimate desire not to be photographed with the IETF's ability to document activities and enable remote participation. In order to enable that, we are proposing the following policy which applies to all IETF events, including WG meetings, plenaries, and the hackathon. LABELLING The IETF will make available a mechanism for participants to label themselves as desiring not to be photographed. The secretariat will determine the details in consultation with the IESG. OFFICIAL PHOTOGRAPHY Any photographer engaged on behalf of the IETF should not photograph individuals displaying the "do-not-photograph" label, should make reasonable efforts to avoid photographing small groups with one or more members displaying the label, and should not publish small group photographs with such individuals in them. Photographs of large groups may contain incidental images of such individuals and we will not attempt to redact those. Specifically, photographs of panels and the like (e.g., the IESG/IAB plenary) are expected to contain all individuals regardless of labelling. Working group meetings are generally video recorded and broadcast, and no attempt will be made to avoid recording individuals. However, if the IETF publishes still frames of these videos, individuals displaying the labels should not be shown. Note: the use of "should" above is intended to reflect that although this is IETF policy, it is a best effort service and some mistakes will likely be made, perhaps because someone's label is not noticed or visible. Individuals can contact XXX to arrange for redaction of their images, or YYY to report abuse. UNOFFICIAL PHOTOGRAPHY Many IETF participants also engage in photography. We ask that those participants respect the above policies and avoid photographing individuals who have asked not to be photographed. Although we recognize that mistakes will be made, repeated intentional violations of this policy may constitute harassment and could be brought to the attention of the ombudsteam, per RFC 7776.
