Re: MHonArc archives to be retired?

Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:27:34 -0500



    On 2/15/18 2:06 PM, Russ Housley wrote:

    
          Perhaps a silly question, but
              why retire the MHonArc archives at all?

          
      The goal is to save only once copy of the mail
        archives for all purposes. Current practices involve duplicate
        stores, which impact storage and replication and are subject to
        inconsistency.  Also, if the Secretariat is asked to remove a
        spam message from the archives, it must be done in multiple
        places.
      

      The full answer is captured in RFC 6778.
      

    Ok - removing spam is an issue - but, again, from personal
    experience, with good filters, and list posting only by list
    members, spam is a very rare event (potentially copyright
    infringement takedown requests might be more common).  But it's
    pretty easy to remove that rare message (at least in the
    implementation I'm running).

    
    RFC6778 actually calls for redundancy, not de-duplication.  And, in
    any case, RFC6778 seems to be a rather old document, Informational
    only, and the product of a single individual.  Not the greatest
    justification for removing an archive that has been working well,
    for many years, for apparently quite a few people.

    
    One might ask, who is making this decision, how, and is it
    representative of the greater community of folks who use the
    archives?

    
    Miles Fidelman

    
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