--On Thursday, February 8, 2018 14:18 +0000 Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > With IPv10 you will be able to access IPv6 only from IPv4 only > hosts, and with the DNS, as described on the draft, you can > have AAAA record as a reply to hostname resolution from an > IPv4 only host then the communication can take place. Khaled, Let me try to explain the problem a different way, noting the response I sent a few minutes ago, and then I'm going to stop spending time on this thread. In retrospect, few of us are convinced that, if we could turn the clock back to the first half of the 1990s and start over with the knowledge we have today, IPv6 would have come out the same way. I can't even guess whether there would have been consensus on a different approach, but I think many of us would have different ideas as to how to proceed from a protocol, deployment, or other perspective. If the ideas you are now calling IPv10 had been available to us in about 1994 (again, in combination with what we've learned subsequently), it is an interesting question whether they would have usefully contributed to the IPng discussions and had significant effects on what became IPv6. Those questions are particularly interesting (at least to me) because some of the assumptions we made them about what was important and what the actual marketplace empirically finds important today are different and it is very hard to sort out cause and effect in those changes. However, today, that question is very nearly irrelevant in practical terms and Internet design and development going forward. In my particular case, I cringe every time I see some of the solutions that have been deployed to allow IPv6 hosts to reach Ipv4 systems and vice versa. But cringing doesn't change anything and end users, probably unsurprisingly, don't care about some of the issues I do and, more important, care only about what it takes to get whatever they are trying to do (from an applications standpoint) in a reasonably effective way. Maybe the world would be a better place if things were different. But they are not different and the net result is that you are working very hard to solve a problem that not only does the marketplace not care about it, but they vast majority of users don't agree that there is a problem. john