> On Feb 5, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 06/02/2018 04:40, Pete Resnick wrote: >> Hi Stewart, >> >> Thanks for the review. Just on the things that Eliot hasn't already >> covered >> >> On 5 Feb 2018, at 5:04, Stewart Bryant wrote: > ...>> Where we meet? >>> We meet in different locations globally, in order to spread the >>> difficulty and cost of travel among active participants, >>> balancing >>> travel time and expense across the regions in which IETF >>> participants are based. >>> >>> SB> Given the support and encouragement of remote participants, there >>> ought to >>> be a note about sharing unreasonable time zone difference pain across >>> the >>> spectrum of remote participants. >> >> I don't believe we currently do take that into account in location >> selection (perhaps others can chime in), so this would be a new >> requirement. We could bring this back to the WG to try and get consensus >> around it, but that doesn't excite me. :-) I'll leave it to my fearless >> AD to advise. > > Having participated in the IETF while living in UTC+1, UTC, UTC-6 > and UTC+12 at various times, all with or with daylight savings, I feel almost > uniquely qualified to comment on this. > > Firstly, add jet lag for the in-person participants to the mix. Then > try to work out the optimisation function across all participants, > to simultaneously minimise jet lag effects and unsocial hours. > > I think it's impossible. At the very least, it's a rat hole. So I > highly recommend leaving this issue aside. Fully agree. Alissa > > Brian