Hi Paul,
Expert review requests don’t generally need early assignment because the expert can review a request immediately and codepoints can be assigned.
The working group chairs normally send the requests to iana@xxxxxxxx for early allocation. See point 5 in section 3.1:
5. If the Area Directors approve step 4), the WG chairs request IANA
to make an early allocation.
Looks like some improvements are needed to RFC7120 and as I’m the author, I’ll add that to my list of to-do’s.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
Best regards,
Michelle Cotton
Protocol Parameters Engagement Sr. Manager – IANA Services
-----Original Message-----
From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Monday, January 22, 2018 at 8:36 AM
To: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@xxxxxx>
Cc: "ipsec@xxxxxxxx" <ipsec@xxxxxxxx>, "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [IPsec] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns
On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, Tero Kivinen wrote:
[ added ietf@xxxxxxxx to get a general discussion on this, as it seems
this is a procedural issue not specific to the WG ]
execsum: I followed RFC 7120 to get an Early Code Point, and there is
confusion about the process between me, the chairs and the epxert.
> I have not seen any request come from IANA to me as an expert. WG
> chairs do not assign code points, IANA does that, and they will only
> start the process when such request is submitted to them. This will
> automatically happen during the RFC publication process. You can also
> submit the request to the IANA at any time, as this is Expert review
> registry...
>
> So make the request through the IANA and then it will come to me (and
> got tickets assigned which will send me reminders if I do not act on
> it quickly enough) and then you can get the number allocated.
I followed https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_html_rfc7120-23section-2D3&d=DwIBAg&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=DtXLhb_G8hD85GLUyK8Z_tHchz8XPohfWYCwPbpStcU&m=VPvwZ58pXTamTD0lOqjz84Jkf5QVaIlhL2YiYAKqoVg&s=Lwg0SR9f74E08PQbAyw6awTf6d5NAzlLz4ylvxQXZ10&e=
The process for requesting and obtaining early allocation of code
points is as follows:
1. The authors (editors) of the document submit a request for early
allocation to the Working Group chairs, specifying which code
points require early allocation and to which document they should
be assigned.
2. [wg chairs do stuff]
Nowhere does it link to or mention a page at IANA where to do this.
Nowhere does it state I should not contact the WG chairs.
Now, there is a strangeness in section 2:
The following conditions must hold before a request for early
allocation of code points will be considered by IANA:
a. The code points must be from a space designated as "RFC
Required", "IETF Review", or "Standards Action". Additionally,
requests for early assignment of code points from a
"Specification Required" registry are allowed if the
specification will be published as an RFC.
I don't understand why "Expert review" is not listed here. Is it by
design or an error in RFC 7120 ?
Additionally, the document does not point to any other instructions
for the process in the case of Expert Review. Who to contact where?
Paul
> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2018 10:35:13
> From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@xxxxxx>
> Cc: "ipsec@xxxxxxxx" <ipsec@xxxxxxxx>, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [IPsec] WG Last Call comments on draft-ietf-ipsecme-split-dns
>
> Paul Wouters writes:
>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2018, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> Greetings. This document is still listed as in WG Last Call, although I haven't seen anything in the archive about that Last Call closing.
>>
>> Yeah, the WGLC ended Nov 9. I have pinged the chairs a few times
>> already, and requested an early code point for INTERNAL_DNSSEC_TA.
>> (we already have one for INTERNAL_DNS_DOMAIN)
>
> I have not seen any request come from IANA to me as an expert. WG
> chairs do not assign code points, IANA does that, and they will only
> start the process when such request is submitted to them. This will
> automatically happen during the RFC publication process. You can also
> submit the request to the IANA at any time, as this is Expert review
> registry...
>
> So make the request through the IANA and then it will come to me (and
> got tickets assigned which will send me reminders if I do not act on
> it quickly enough) and then you can get the number allocated.
>
> I though I had already explained this year ago when we assigned
> INTERNAL_DNS_DOMAIN, i.e., for expert registries, there is no need to
> go through IESG or WG chairs, you can fill in the form in IANA page,
> and then it will come to the expert for review...
> --
> kivinen@xxxxxx
>
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