On 01/12/2017 05:45, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The IASA 2.0 effort is discussing the *future* of IASA and the >> IAOC. That isn't my concern here, and there's a mailing list for >> it (https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/iasa20). > >> What I'm concerned about is that fact that a couple of *current* >> IAOC slots are up for appointment shortly (by NomCom and IESG >> respectively), with several fine candidates in each case. > >> All I'm asking is that in their considerations, the appointing >> bodies keep in mind the definition of the IAOC's role: > >> The IAOC's role is to provide appropriate direction to the IAD, to >> review the IAD's regular reports, and to oversee IASA functions to > > 1) do you believe that IAOC cmte have unreasonably expanded their > scope? > > 2) despite this definition, a bunch of new things have shown up for > the IAOC, and that now includes: * IETF Trust supervision Well, IETF Trust *membership*, not supervision. As an editor of RFC 4371, I'm unlikely to forget that. But like the original IAOC role, it was clearly intended to be a "Board" level of activity, not an executive function. That's all I'm saying, and all I want to say on this list. Brian > * Tools cmte: managing contractors * something else I forgot. > > Reading the reports from the IAD is still a major part; but some > things have devolved elsewhere. Also the IAD doesn't necessarily > have the right skill set to figure out technical issues that come > from contractors. Also, financial repors, while puck-handled by the > IAD have been provided by an ISOC resource until September, and now > are done by AMSL under contract. > > So your advice that to pay attention to the IAD oversight misses the > other kinds of oversight that now also occurs. > > {me: non-voting member of finance subcmte, nominee for IESG member. > Note: I've told the IESG that I won't be IAOC chair, and to pick > someone else if they need an IAOC chair} > > -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 > mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works > | network architect [ ] mcr@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ >