On 30/10/2017 16:27, Martin Thomson wrote: > On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> The existing downref process (RFC 3967) doesn't apply. That is to handle >> references to >> an RFC that is at a lower maturity - such as a normative reference to an >> Informational or >> Experimental RFC - or from an Internet Standard to a Proposed Standard. > > I couldn't find anything in 3967 to support that view (other than the > parenthetical in the abstract). Maybe it's implicit. The quote from RFC2026 in section 1 of RFC3967 is pretty unambiguous when read in context - throughout RFC2026, "standards track" refers to the IETF standards track, and "standards track specifications" refers to IETF documents. And in any case the Abstract of RFC3967 sets the scope thus: "Exceptions to this rule are sometimes needed as the IETF uses informational RFCs to describe non-IETF standards or IETF-specific modes of use of such standards." My main concern with the new proposal is other: > 1. Is it stable, mature, and immutable (except for errata)? Those are not well known characteristics of open source projects. Even if we tie a reference down to a very specific version, I'm unclear how that can truly act as a stable reference. It may be stable in a mathematical sense, but it may also be seven years behind deployed reality. Brian