I am far too busy this week to research this and get back to you with details. And I suspect that neither your computers nor mine are representative of those of RFC readers. But there are so many things that have to work right for UTF8 to display and print correctly that I'm still amazed that it ever works, so am unsurprised when it doesn't. It's the normal state of brain damage as far as I'm concerned. It's just sad that IETF is now apparently saddled with it. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2017, at 3:58 PM, John R Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Essentially every single time I need to deal with a document containing utf8, I see glitches. It's not every single app but there's always some app. > > No, really, please give us some concrete examples. > > "Random programs on Keith's PC" isn't very helpful. > > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@xxxxxxxxx, Taughannock Networks, Trumansburg NY > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly