I think we need to have a “nice” and attractive “public face” for anyone NOT being an actual participant, and in general I like the beta (adding the social networks thing that I already mention in a previous email).
I also agree that most of the frequent “participants/contributors”, often go directly to the page they want (bookmarks or just start typing “datatra …” in the URL space, or go to the home and click “next meeting” or whatever.
I think there are several ways to do that, for example (just to mention a few) and they can be combined easily:
1) The beta “tools” section can have more “direct” links (may be instead of Tools rename it to “frequent sections” or something similar) to actual subdomains such as datatracker, blog, rfc-editor, email archive, iesg, iab, irtf, iaoc, ipr, liaisons, secretariat, etc.
2) Have a “customize” section so you can choose what is your “default” entry page.
3) Have a “customize” section so you can choose your “preferred” home page and default “top” links / menu.
4) Use cookies or something else to remember what was your last visit.
5) etc
It should not be a big issue for an existing participant to “adjust” the first time the beta is moved to production, to adjust what he prefers to get, but definitively our front door should be nice for anyone contacting IETF for a first time or non-frequently visitors.
Regards,
Jordi
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De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Tim Chown <tjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Responder a: <tjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: miércoles, 26 de julio de 2017, 11:24
Para: Arkko Jari <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx>
CC: IETF Discussion <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: Revamp of the www.ietf.org website
Hi,
> On 26 Jul 2017, at 07:51, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> FWIW, I also agree with Andrew.
>
> But I had an added comment about the front or other entrances.
> If I look at the current IETF website, I don’t think it would be too
> hard for the “front door” to be an entrance for everybody. Most
> of us don’t need an explanation of what the IETF is or the like,
> but even on the current website, there aren’t too many things
> that I normally click. I click on the “next meeting”, “next meeting’s
> agenda” a *lot*. I don’t remember if the datatracker is hiding
> somewhere on the current website, but I certainly go to the
> datatracker a lot. I also go to the WG list quite often, to
> look up something that I don’t remember from an unfamiliar
> area etc. I click on the blog now and then. But that’s about
> it.
Mentally I have already retreated from beta.ietf.org as a useful page for a participant. But I can accept that; the current page is unwelcoming or an “outsider”, and we could use a better public “face”.
> If those things were one click from the new web site…
> and the rest would be neatly organised, that would certainly
> do it for me. I don’t see how adding those to the otherwise
> more “information about the IETF” website would be hard.
Well, if it’s “one click away”, participants will just bookmark or go directly to that page, and not www.ietf.org. I know I will. Just like I sometimes also go directly to the datatracker.
> For added bonus, maybe the most recent last
> call / most recent blog article / most recent call for
> hotel reservations opening or the like were to be also
> displayed, the front door would give me an added
> benefit of possibly stumbling on information that I
> needed.
Put all that on a one screen, participant oriented “index” page that we can go directly to. Leave www.ietf.org to be the public shop window.
Tim
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