> On 12 Jul 2017, at 09:37, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:38:20 +0200, a linux hacker wrote privately: >> >> Ive used it because my linux laptop wouldnt bind to anything else. Not >> sure why. > > this is a case that worries me deeply. folk with issues should visit > the help desk in the terminal-less room or visit the noc. This recent Apple support article is relevant, at least for iOS users :) https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202831 > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 07:54:44 +0200, Eliot Lear wrote: >> >> Why not just turn it off and see what happens? > > because the noc thinks of the attendees as those strange critters called > "customers." this creates implications for service continuity. > > On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 08:46:11 +0200, Christian Huitema wrote: >> >> You may want to tabulate the OS version of the devices on the >> un-encrypted network. Can your DHCP server do that? That should give you >> some indication. > > i proposed measuring a number of aspects of use of ietf-legacy, mostly > port use; wanting to get a feel if the use was protected above layer > three. i specifically avoided proposing looking inside the packsts as i > do not have time to deal rigorously with the PII issues. when i asked > if i could measure port use, i was asked to write up a formal project > description. as this is not my paying $dayjob, i hit delete. > > for me, the botttom line here is > > please try networks other than ietf-legacy. if you have problems > which drive you to legacy, please come to the noc and debug. > > this is something to be revisited when we know more. > > thanks for the clues. The above Apple article suggests that once you do switch, your device will prefer the most recently used SSID. Personally I use eduroam, and it’s preferred for me by iOS. The snag is that if some other SSID is auto-joined, it’s not clearly indicated on the device; you just see the WiFi indication in place of 3/4G. Tim > > randy >