Apologies, my 2nd quote below was from Andrew, not Bob. Regards Brian On 11/01/2017 15:12, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 11/01/2017 11:57, Bob Hinden wrote: > ... >> While I am certainly not a trademark lawyer, I would think that if the last sentence in the first paragraph of Introduction in the draft is changed to: >> >> For IETF protocols, that role is filled by the Internet Assigned Numbers >> Authority (IANA) Services [RFC2860] described in this document as IANA. >> >> I would think this is not a trademark violation, since it is clear what IANA is referring to. > > Regardless, we must not issue a document with such absurd, ugly and ungrammatical > phrasing. It would make us a laughing stock. > >> _We_ do not own the IANA trademark. The IETF Trust does. > > Don't care. Ultimately the Trust does what the IETF tells it to do. I understand > that lawyers sometimes give very cautious advice, but it's our choice whether > we take that advice after due consideration. Making this document read absurdly > is simply not OK. Putting in some introductory legalese is OK. > > Brian >