On 5/26/2016 10:35 AM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On 5/26/16 9:25 AM, Lawrence Conroy wrote:
As Ohta-san pointed out, there is no international consensus on single
sex marriage as a human right.
This is not about recognition of same-sex marriage, and I
expect that one of the reasons we're having difficulty making
progress is that there's confusion on that point.
This highlights a basic challenge for the general topic under
consideration. Some others have been pointing to the challenge, but I do
not believe it yet has been clearly marked for action here:
The nature of the current topic is to exclude from consideration
as a venue those places with laws and/or policies and/or practices that
are deemed by the IETF community to be unacceptable.
We need a clear and complete statement of the social and legal
realities that are to be used to disqualify a venue. We need that
statement to have IETF rough consensus.
Absent that agreed list, we are conducting random walk through an
ambiguous decision-tree. Certainly its absence leaves the IAOC with
inadequate guidance for avoiding future errors as is being assessed
about Singapore.
This does not make light of the social/legal issues getting focus here.
Rather it is an attempt to move the consideration to something that can
be used as a clear decision-making policy.
d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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