Re: A couple of meta points -- IETF 100, Singapore, onwards

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Hi,

Thanks, a cogent summary, though I think it underplays a couple of key points:

1/ the cost of backing out of Singapore at this date (this is the picture we’re trying to put together in a way that will be useful for public consumption)

2/ whether a broader range of people than have failed to unsubscribe from the IETF@ mailing list are on board with canceling (there are a few different conversations that are going on in the background and they are not all supportive of canceling).

Leslie.

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Leslie Daigle
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On 24 May 2016, at 10:19, Adam Roach wrote:

On 5/24/16 08:20, Leslie Daigle wrote:
an IETF meeting that is 18 months away is actually an IETF meeting NOW for planning purposes.


What I'm hearing (here and elsewhere in the thread) is that we have a long-term policy issue that we should address with considerable deliberation and at a pace that respects the gravity of the issue; and that we have an extremely short term "go or no-go" decision that needs to be made now, right now, immediately regarding IETF 100.

While there have been a variety of positions put forth on the topic, I think there's good evidence in this conversation that the final, long-term policy that we'll form on this topic would probably, if complete and in place today, rule out Singapore as a potential destination. It's not a foregone conclusion, and I'm not trying to claim anything like consensus. I'm just pointing out that it's a real possibility.

From that perspective, it seems that the snap judgement that needs to be made right now can only safely be made by revectoring to a different location. If the situation is as urgent as you portray it to be, it sounds like there's not time for the more protracted course of action you propose, unless going to Singapore is a foregone conclusion and this is merely an exercise in justification.

/a





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