Re: ietf.org end-to-end principle

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On 3/17/16 2:50 AM, Josh Howlett wrote:
>> The takeaway for me is that the end-to-end principle is dead. The
>> times where all intelligence should be in end hosts only, no
>> middleboxes, and KISS have gone, and techniques going in the
>> opposite direction are not only in use, but even embraced by IETF
>> operations.
> 
> +1
> 
> But the fact that these solutions exist points to a need unmet by
> existing e2e approaches. Someone in IETF operations had presumably
> thought out their requirements when this service was procured.
> Embedding e2e within a solution that satisfies those same operational
> requirements sounds like a potential IETF WG charter in the making.

I'm  not really sure what you folks are talking about anymore. A CDN
whether internal or a third party is an extension of the applications
stack, not a bump in the wire.

building scalable performant low latency services is a distributed
systems problem and there are a number of areas of the ietf activity
(all of them probably) involved in doing.

> Josh.
> 
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