The IETF is censoring gopher! Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood ----- Original Message ----- From: Eliot Lear <lear@xxxxxxxxx> To: Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; IETF Disgust List <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, 16 March 2016, 18:32 Subject: Re: ietf.org unaccessible for Tor users On 3/16/16 8:06 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > it is not ours to say what others should and should not read, or to > which they should have easier access. to do so is called censorship. Nobody's prohibiting access to any of our public documents. And as someone pointed out elsewhere, if one wants to copy every last bit of IETF documentation, they are able to do so and provide whatever access they wish. To my knowledge nobody else has raised the concern that that the Tor people are raising, and so we are being asked to specifically support Tor. Fine. That means we then need to consider the benefit/harm of our actions regarding who precisely we are helping. I asked that question honestly without an answer, but with concerns. Eliot