> On Mar 17, 2016, at 08:27, Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > the lawyers we consulted said that it was important to say what was said > > setting up a web site designed for people under 13 is a major effort (verifying ages of users etc) > > this seemed the best way (the first proposal we got was to say that people under 13 could > not use the site) When law requires you to basically lie, the law needs updating. But I agree we shouldn't spend ietf money on that. Paul > > Scott > >> On Mar 17, 2016, at 8:23 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 08:13, Scott Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> I agree but the law is what the law is >>> >>> see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children's_Online_Privacy_Protection_Act >>> >>> the wording used says that its fine if the kid has parental OK >> >> But then there is no need to say our website is not designed for people under 13. They are designed for people of all ages. >> >> Paul >> >> >>> Scott >>> >>>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 8:09 AM, Paul Wouters <paul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> My only issue is that it claims our websites are not for use by children under 13. They most certainly are. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Mar 17, 2016, at 03:01, Eggert, Lars <lars@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ray, >>>>> >>>>> would this extend to and cover the IRTF as well? >>>>> >>>>> Lars >>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-03-16, at 18:02, IETF Administrative Director <iad@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The IAOC would like community input on a proposed IETF Privacy Policy. >>>>>> >>>>>> We are required by California law (and good net citizenship) to have >>>>>> an accurate privacy policy on our websites. Counsel have reviewed >>>>>> this statement for compliance with US and EU privacy regulations. >>>>>> >>>>>> The policy discusses the following: >>>>>> 1. General – Most Personal Data Submitted to IETF Will Become Public >>>>>> 2. You Consent to International Transmission of Your Data >>>>>> 3. Exceptions – Information That We Do Not Release to the Public >>>>>> 4. Security >>>>>> 5. Children >>>>>> 6. Inquiries >>>>>> 7. Compliance >>>>>> 8. Other Organizations >>>>>> 9. Consent >>>>>> >>>>>> The proposed Privacy Policy is located here: >>>>>> http://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF-General-Privacy-Statement-2016-02-24-02.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> The IAOC will consider all comments received by 31 March 2016. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray Pelletier >>>>>> IETF Administrative Director >>