I also wanted to address the question of “outside services”. There are obviously various different technical arrangements. From one box to multiple boxes to clouds, load balancers, front-ends, own and shared networks, etc. But I want to be clear that the IETF services do not run by themselves. There are real people and real costs involved in running the services. Arrangements differ, some services are run by volunteers (thank you!) and some under commercial arrangements that we explicitly contract and pay for. AMS, some data centre facilities, Cloudfare, and software developer companies, for instance. We have the ability to decide what we want, though obviously within some constraints of what is reasonably available and/or at what cost. I think it is useful to discuss whether our technical arrangements should evolve somehow. But I don’t think we can get away from the fact that we’ll be using commercial services of one or other kind. I wouldn’t draw the line between inside and outside at the CDNs, for instance. Jari
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