> By using CloudFlare IETF is actively blocking Tor connections to IETF > page. i agree this is a problem. but i am not sure about the solution space. are we trading one form of security for another? what is the treat model which drives us to tls/https? authenticity of the data? privacy of what i access? in the scheme of things, how important are our data anyway and what are we trading for perceived protection? how much load-spreading and resilience do ietf web/wiki/archives actually need? if they need a cdn, and i am not so sure they do, can we have a cdn which supports tls without being a monkey in the middle? do we pay to deploy a half dozen anycasted instances of our own and maintain them [0]? some of this we have discussed before, maybe not as insightfully as we might have. randy 0 - sysadmin is similar to doing the dishes; you go to sleep with a clean kitchen, but there will be more dishes tomorrow.