> On Dec 31, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Skickat från min iPhone > >> 31 dec. 2015 kl. 18:04 skrev Jared Mauch <jared@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> >>> On Dec 31, 2015, at 5:00 AM, Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On 2015-12-31 06:16, Patrik Fältström wrote: >>>> Is this connected to the fact that not even people developing standards >>>> use very same standards? >>> >>> The problem is that we don't have enough dogs on our tasting panels: we >>> need to get more ops folks directly & actively involved in the IETF. >>> >>> Examining some of our success stories I suspect we'd find extensive >>> involvement from operations in every case. >> >> Sadly that’s not the case here. >> >> The reason we (as an operator) can’t use BCP-38 is the vendor hardware can’t do it at line-rate and the performance hit is too much to sustain. >> >> Sorry to disappoint. We even dropped it as a requirement in 2015 because it was clear the gap was getting wider not narrower. >> >> Happy to discuss in person in BA or anywhere else we end up at the same time. >> >> - Jared > > I dunno if that is true or not but in either case you just proved my point. That’s not to say I’m not in favor of BCP-38, it’s just that we are often the wrong place to do the drops as well, spoofed packets should get addressed. It’s often hard to describe topologies and while RPSL might be a technique to do it, and it’s a standards based way to describe these things, it’s certainly not commonly used. - Jared