> On Dec 31, 2015, at 5:00 AM, Leif Johansson <leifj@xxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2015-12-31 06:16, Patrik Fältström wrote: >> Is this connected to the fact that not even people developing standards >> use very same standards? > > The problem is that we don't have enough dogs on our tasting panels: we > need to get more ops folks directly & actively involved in the IETF. > > Examining some of our success stories I suspect we'd find extensive > involvement from operations in every case. Sadly that’s not the case here. The reason we (as an operator) can’t use BCP-38 is the vendor hardware can’t do it at line-rate and the performance hit is too much to sustain. Sorry to disappoint. We even dropped it as a requirement in 2015 because it was clear the gap was getting wider not narrower. Happy to discuss in person in BA or anywhere else we end up at the same time. - Jared