On 12/18/15 8:20 AM, Warren Kumari wrote: > 5: Some set of folk think that planning a meeting and choosing a > location is easy. I doubt anybody thinks it's easy. I think most of us who have a problem with the meeting situation are aware that it's quite difficult. Speaking strictly for myself, my problem with what's been going on is that on the one hand we are de facto making meetings the center of IETF activity for most participants and yet we're not trying to optimize around the effectiveness of the meeting space. I think we possibly could do something around the former but I don't think it's likely we will, based on both past discussion and the behavior of very many very experienced working group chairs (another discussion). But we've got two situations in tension with each other. I don't think your characterization is correct or reasonable and I found your comments a bit dismissive. Melinda