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Joe,

It's easier to change the subject field than to apologise.

Experts,

Will the problem with Mailman distribution of DMARC-contaminated messages
be fixed in time for this,or must we gmail users start to look for a
more reasonable provider?

Regards
   Brian

On 22/10/2015 07:57, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote:
> Totally the wrong thread, so I'll apologize profusely now.
> 
> GMail is set to turn on DMARC reject strict by sometime early next
> year [1] being one of the last big web mail providers to do so; so,
> Mailman "From:" rewriting (or turning on the ability for IETF list
> subscribers to toggle this for their sends) might need to be done for
> IETF lists.
> 
> best, Joe
> 
> [1]: https://threatpost.com/google-moving-gmail-to-strict-dmarc-implementation/115125/
> 
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Folks -
>>
>> We have been testing IMAP access to the IETF archives for several days now,
>> with volunteers from the tools-discuss and ietf chairs lists, and it's been
>> going well. Thank you if you've been helping test already (and please
>> continue to do so)!
>>
>> Now we need more testers. We'd like to get a simple measure of load, so we'd
>> like to have as many folks as are willing accessing the test instance at the
>> same time with various clients during the next week. It would be
>> particularly helpful to have several people using the system next Thursday.
>>
>> If you're willing to take the time to do this, please drop me a note
>> directly (I've set reply-to on this message) so I have a feel for how many
>> people are participating.
>>
>> Instructions for accessing the test instance are below.
>>
>> Please report any issues you find directly to me. Do not open tickets with
>> the secretariat. Be aware that there are known issues with the data on the
>> test instance (some lists have blank or truncated messages) that have not
>> yet been addressed - it would be good to report any more you find to me, but
>> they won't get fixed immediately.
>>
>> Please use tools-discuss@xxxxxxxx for general conversation. If you have
>> feature requests, that's a good place to send them. One request we've had
>> from a few testers so far is to provide an additional shared folder with a
>> mailbox for each list that has only the "recent" messages from that list -
>> perhaps the last 6 months. It would be good to hear from folks, after
>> they've tried what's there now, whether that would be useful to spend
>> development time on, or if that time would be better spent elsewhere.
>>
>> The test instance is getting mail with only a slight delay after it comes
>> through the lists - you should see current traffic.
>>
>> Please resist the temptation to download the entire archive of every list.
>> I've done it - it's huge (~28G when MailMate does it) and it it's a severe
>> torture test for clients. Interrupt your client if it starts trying to do
>> that to you. Caching a copy of this test instance will not be useful when we
>> deploy the production instance.
>>
>> Instead, what would help us the most is to configure your client to access
>> those lists you normally subscribe to, and to spend some time next week
>> browsing and searching those lists and exploring a few lists that are new to
>> you.
>>
>> You can find the details for where the test instance is listening, and
>> rudimentary instructions for setting up a few clients, at
>> <http://trac.tools.ietf.org/group/tools/trac/wiki/ImapTesting>. Please
>> improve that page as you see the opportunity.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any time you can give this.
>>
>> RjS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 




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