Den 26. juni 2015 18:40, skrev Joe Touch: > > > On 6/26/2015 12:37 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote: >> Den 25. juni 2015 17:56, skrev Joe Touch: >>> Nope. The IETF isn't political at all. >> >> We take positions, and we're proud of it. >> >> A Mission Statement for the IETF (RFC 3935) section 4.1 is most explicit: >> >> The Internet isn't value-neutral, and neither is the IETF. We want >> the Internet to be useful for communities that share our commitment >> to openness and fairness. We embrace technical concepts such as >> decentralized control, edge-user empowerment and sharing of >> resources, because those concepts resonate with the core values of >> the IETF community. These concepts have little to do with the >> technology that's possible, and much to do with the technology that >> we choose to create. > > IMO, your interpretation of this as relating to political issues > mistakes the IETF for EFF. You'll note that I chose not to use the word "political". That was deliberate. "Political" is used in a variety of ways, many of which I don't agree with. The use of the word also varies greatly from country to country, so it's fraught with danger for anyone from one country to use the word in debates occuring in another country. So I find the use of the word to be a distraction. I see the showing of CITIZENFOUR as completely consistent with the position the IETF has taken with such steps as publishing "Pervasive Monitoring is an Attack" (RFC 7258, BCP 188). I support this position. That's all.