Thank you Dave excellent question. Actionable items. 1. Look at our schedule. We are going to Prague. It would be most fitting and proper for ISOC to sponsor a limited number of free passes to the IETF meetings to the Czech telecom regulators. That could be easily be arranged. Why should the ITU have all the fun. We should offer something to all of Latin America¹s regulators if we are going to Argentina! If it Montreal why not invite the Prime Minister to keynote ..depending on who that is. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/home-accueil.htm http://www.ctu.eu/main.php?pageid=178 That could be easily be done for all future meetings simple out reach. Yes we are a big deal. We have to accept the reality that if we are going to run the protocols for the communications network for the entire planet we have to explain ourselves. 2. Public policy advocates.. A bit tricker but still the same principal. If Consumers Union could figure out how to find us to deal with Caller ID spoofing in Dallas then lets find them on security privacy issues. Again my issue with ISOC. Outreach is what they are charged to do so let them bring people to the table to see what real multi stakeholder consensus is about. I thought the CU folks were wonderful BTW. On 3/30/15, 10:06 PM, "Dave Crocker" <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >On 3/30/2015 3:55 PM, Richard Shockey wrote: >> 2. We need to be more accommodating to public policy folks and National >> Regulatory Authorities. Maybe ISOC needs to work on that. Some of us >> have tried we get nowhere. > >\ >Richard, > >In concrete terms, what does this mean? Within the bounds of our >skillsets and time and deliverables, what should the IETF and >participants /do/ to accommodate policy folk? > >ISOC has done quite a bit to provide tutorials and tour guides for quite >a few folk that I thought were policy-based. > >Not to say there isn't more to do, but I've no idea what. > >d/ > >-- >Dave Crocker >Brandenburg InternetWorking >bbiw.net >