On 9/15/14 8:55 PM, Michael StJohns wrote: > Mostly I think its about too large a representation by large > organizations, regardless of their individual foci of commercial, > educational, international or state goals. As a matter of > pragmatism, the folks we select for our leadership positions tend to > come from large organizations, simply due to the level of support > necessary for a participant to be successful in an IETF leadership > position. Changing the selection process for the composition of the > Nomcom is realistically NOT going to change that tendency. What > modification of the selection process should do is reduce one of the > enablers for oligarchical organizational behavior - specifically like > selecting like. I think that's correct, and addressing it requires more structural changes than we're likely to be able to implement any time soon. But. I do think there's value in having leadership come from companies competing with each other, if we're limited to having the leadership come from large vendors. It's not only because it helps diffuse influence, but also because they can be very different organizationally, and that can be useful (different decision-making and management styles, for example). Melinda