One solution to all this is for the IETF to offer their own firstname.lastname@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx "registration" account to participants. -- Hector Santos http://www.santronics.com > On Aug 29, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 30/08/2014 03:00, Mary Barnes wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Ross Finlayson <finlayson@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>>> Gmail, like Yahoo and Hotmail and AOL, is sporadically useful for casual >>>> purposes where mail transmission and receipt isn't terribly important. >>>> But it's much too poorly operated to be acceptable for professional use. >>> Plus the fact that "@yahoo.com" and "@gmail.com" (etc.) serve as good >>> first-level 'Bozo Filters'. DMARC serves as yet another reminder that >>> serious professionals should not be using such email addresses. >> [MB] I guess I am a terribly unserious professional. You might consider >> that some of us switched to gmail because corporate filters are often >> TERRIBLE about periodically blocking email from IETF mailing lists. And, >> trying to convince some of those 'Bozos' not to do so is a exercise in >> futility. If you're lucky, they'll provide you with a daily list of some >> of the messages they've quarantined and you can then go and retrieve those. >> So, I've had a much better experience since I switched from using >> corporate email for professional use to gmail for 'unserious' professional >> use. >> [/MB] > > Exactly. Since I switched to gmail for IETF traffic, I have changed > employers, retired, un-retired and moved countries three times, with > a stable email environment and no need to fight any corporate or ISP > policies. The threat of DMARC hassle is the first real problem I've had. > > Brian > >