Hi Mike, On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 01:58:53PM -0400, Michael StJohns wrote: > Part of the above is a desire to segment the conversations a bit more than we're currently doing so as to reduce the noise level. I actually don't think more segmentation will help. First, my experience is that the "noise" is not primarily because of drafts I don't care about, but because of people who can't control their logohhrea and who feel that "rough consensus" is approximately the same thing as "I have shouted down everyone who disagrees with me." (Indeed, in my experience, the number of noisy transmitters is really quite small. You probably have your own list.) Second, I think that the IETF is already precariously over-segmented. Way too little cross-review is happening, and the consequence is not just that insights from people who might have something useful to say is missed., We also fail to re-use techniques, and instead discover the same problems over and over again. Best regards, A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx