On 8/22/14 10:36 AM, Michael StJohns wrote: > As for the cost of getting to/staying in Hawaii - if I averaged out > the cost of my various IETF plane tickets over say the last 5 years, > I would say that this is probably pretty close or below that average. > I would also say that the hotel costs are comparable and that the > travel times are within a sigma of my average over the last 5 years. Because of my situation (living in interior Alaska), travel nearly anywhere takes multiple flight segments and at least the better part of a day. And because of my personal proclivities, Hawaii in November sounds like a slice of hell. For me the clincher is the likely unavailability of decent low-cost food (Orlando was absolutely awful on that front), and if I go at all I'll only stay a few days, strictly because of the venue. But that's me. Everybody's different, so reasonable compromises seem reasonable. (Although I still don't understand why we're not returning to Minneapolis). The size of the meeting and the need for a large number of sessions in parallel is likely to drive nearly all other considerations, I think. Melinda