Hi Christian, On 21/08/14 20:23, Christian Huitema wrote: > Viktor's draft is basically fine. It is short and clear. The various > rounds of edits tend to make it "different," but not better. IMHO, it > is time to ship it. I think your mail is a good summary though perhaps it doesn't catch all of the concerns that Dave expressed. In particular he also had a concern that we may be addressing the wrong target audience. However, there was no significant discussion of that when I kicked off a thread so I conclude that others don't share that concern. All that said, I agree with your conclusion that we risk going more sideways than forward with additional iteration. Right now, Viktor is preparing a -04 taking into account list discussion on -03 and the substantial editorial inputs from Steve Kent and Ben Kaduk. Barring late surprises, my plan is to put that into IESG evaluation as I conclude we have reached rough consensus on the concepts here. For who are those interested, I plan to add the saag list to the cc for IESG evaluation comments/discuss points so you'll be able to follow along there as the IESG consider this draft. That'll probably happen in the run up to the Sep 4th IESG telechat, or maybe the one on Sept 18th, depending. And lastly, thanks to everyone for the engaging discussion. Cheers, S. > > -- Christian Huitema > > > >